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Saturday, January 12, 2008

Obama Iraq War 2004

The Star pushes forward Bill Clinton's question about Obama's stand on the war in 2004 in this article, Is Obama or Clinton really for 'change'?:
"Of course, he opposed the Iraq war in 2002 when Clinton voted in favour, but he said in 2004 he wasn't sure how he would have voted had he been in the Senate."
No mention of Obama's response.

Researching the story some more to get Obama's take on it, I find that Reuters ignore's Obama's response too, Bill Clinton defends "fairy tale" remark on Obama:
Former President Bill Clinton said on Friday Barack Obama's bid to be president was no "fairy tale" and said his use of that phrase earlier in the week referred specifically to Obama's claims about his stance on the Iraq war.
The NY Times tries harder, Clintons Move to Tamp Down Criticism From Blacks About Recent Comments:
Mr. Clinton, in his radio interview, disputed any notion that he had been impugning Mr. Obama personally.

He said he was addressing a specific issue that, he believed, had not been given sufficient scrutiny: Mr. Obama’s position on Iraq and a statement by Mr. Obama in 2004 that he could not say how he would have voted on the war had he been in the Senate, though he did not believe the case for war had been made.

Mr. Clinton said the 2004 view was at odds with Mr. Obama’s position that he, unlike Mrs. Clinton, has always been against the war. “I said that story is a fairy tale,” Mr. Clinton said. “Now that doesn’t have anything to do with my respect for him as a person or his campaign. I have gone out of my way not to express any personal disrespect for him and his campaign.”

Mr. Obama’s campaign said Mr. Clinton was engaging in revisionist history about his record on the war.
It's hard to get the whole story.


  1. I had seen the full quote of the text, and Obama saying that Mr. Clinton had engaged on selective editing (the next line of the quote clarifies his stance immensely). The best I could do in a quick search was this from TPMElectionCentral:

    "Obama has said during this campaign that he hedged on his answer about the Iraq War authorization vote because he did not want to openly disagree with John Kerry and John Edwards, as they were the party's ticket at the national convention where he was speaking, and both of whom had voted for the war and yet to repudiate it."

  2. Thanks.

    I saw Obama say something to that effect on the news, but could not find a transcript on the Obama site or in any recent news report on it.

    The media is supposed to be unbiased and present both sides, but they haven't done a good job in the stories I've seen on the web.

  3. Anonymous1:26 PM

    Thanks you, its realy interesting post.

  4. Bill Clinton Takes On the Media
    By Howard Kurtz
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, January 14, 2008; 7:47 AM

    "Bill Clinton was referring to a July 2004 New York Times piece that said Obama "declined to criticize Senators Kerry and Edwards for voting to authorize the war, although he said he would not have done the same based on the information he had at the time. 'But, I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports,' Mr. Obama said. 'What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.' '' So "I don't know" was just a caveat."

    Thank you Howard Kurtz.